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hi everyone. i dream about the future all the time. recently i had two of the most disturbing pre-cognitive dreams i have ever had, and feel i must share one of them with you, as events are coming to a head, and other information has come along that suggests this is "a live one". --- dream date: 20th november 2008 (approx). the dream concerns paris, france. this event was related to me as "old news" by someone in the future, and i did not see it for myself. the man who told me about it is currently a corner-shop owner in my town. in the dream i walked out of his current day shop only to walk back in for something i forgot and find myself time-shifted into the future. the shop shelves and the till were gone, and in their place rather fine furniture (he does a thriving trade today). there is food being prepadrinking wine and chatting. the shop owner converses with me and drops this "bomb-shell", that paris was nuked. i am partially lucid at this stage, and i am keen to ascertain the date, so i asked him when it happened. he tells me. the 28th of january. he didn't say what year. the only other info i remember was some talk about the IRA and the NAZIs. on an encouraging note, there are numerous other futures i see where the illuminati (NAZIs) have been defeated, and are discussed as common history knowledge. i left this a little late, but i've been doing some searching on the timing of the 28th january, and came up with these worrying results. --- the siege of paris lasted from september 19 in 1870 to january 28 in 1871. as part of the franco-prussian war, that siege saw the defeat of france and the emergence of the german empire. bismarck, who was the prime minister of prussia, bombarded the city with heavy artillery. because of this, the city surrendered on January 28 in 1871. more damage was done to paris in this siege than ever before in history. this was clearly a very powerful symbolic day in france's history. --- there is a workshop on the 28th to 29th of January in 2009 in paris, for the management of emergencies of a radiological nuclear type, and european preparedness for post accident rehabilitation. an "eu-neris" web page ( updated friday the 28th of november 2008 ) details "the EURANOS project", the goal of which is to improve the effectiveness of emergency management of european nuclear and radiological events and rehabilitation of areas which have been contaminated. among it's objectives are improved understanding of post-accident issues, and preparedness for rehabilitation, in europe. among it's target audience are european nuclear safety authorities, and international organisations. --- ok, so i'm freaked out now. these are curious coincidences indeed. first the anniversary of the worst ever destruction of paris, bringing it under the german empire. second, a false flag classic, nuclear attack "exercise" scheduled for the same day. for those unfamiliar with false flag terrorism, the perpetrators (occult criminal elements of the military industrial complex) are obsessed with symbolic dates, and often run exercises, simulations or drills at the same time and location as the event. tell anyone you know about this, just in case. many believe they called off the attack on chicago, because people got the word out. this is just like that, except a little more cooky. two weeks left! Last edited by lazyhorse; 01-14-2009 at 08:23 PM. Reason: tweaks |
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Hullo LazyHorse,
You have entertaining dreams. At the time of this writing it is 25/1/09, so just a few days to go to the big one. Finding significant events in history to support a proposition or argument for the truth of a statement, is a very worthwhile past-time. But if the 28th of January is such a bad date, then how come David Boon scored his 12th Test century (135), on the 28th of January 1992? And on 28/1/1991, exactly one year to the day before 28.1.1992, Boony scored his 9th Test Century (121). And on 28/1/1989 - Boony scored his 7th Test Century (149)! So try telling David Boon to be worried about the 28th of January and see how far you get. (Although we probably should check to see which city Boony's going to be in on the 28th. If he's in any city in the world other than Paris, we could have a problem, but if he is in Paris on the 28th we should be OK, cause there's not going to be any nuking around Boony on his lucky day) Bad things happened too, it's true... "Fantasy Island" starring Ricardo Montalban premiered - 28/1/1978 "Barnaby Jones" premiered on CBS TV - 28/1/1973 The Thornbirds won the 41st Golden Globes award - 28/1/1984 and of course, the French government of Paul Boncour fell - 28/1/1933 But it started on 18/12/1932 so watch out for good things happening on the 18th of December. Another thing you can see from these dates, French Governments aside, is that most of the bad things that happen on the 28th of January, happen in America! And so I'm wondering if on the 28th, it's not Paris France that's nuked - but Paris Texas? regards, Mr. B. Wizard |
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curious about david boon there. i'm guessing the test match is over those same days every year, and he often scores a century? must be in oz, because it's too cold for cricket in blighty round january. :)
nothing's going to happen, i'm just making a pudding of myself, but what could i do? nothing? |
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Hello Lazyhorse,
I am a great believer that if you are having significant dates, numbers, or the same type of theme occurring throughout a dream then there is a significant symbol or sign trying to come through from your subconscious. It is interesting to find your dream is taking you both back and forward in time and again I would be looking at the significance of what that represents to you. With my spiritual work I have come to realise there is no such thing as man-made time. As spirit will constantly say 'time is an illusion'. If you are having repetitive dreams then there is definitely something you need to address. I would suggest before falling into sleep you ask your higher self to give you some sense of understanding about the significance of these dreams. A simple thought of pure intent will do the trick. Also, start a dream journal and write the dreams you are experiencing. If they are repetitive dreams begin to write the dream as you were watching a play. (refer to dreamtime section on website for further information). The next step is to look at the symbolic messages, or general archetypes you are encountering in the dream and to ask what they mean to YOU. Do you need to become more actively involved in a cause? Are you feeling powerless to stop a chain of events occurring in your life? Begin to ask questions to your higher self and allow the information to filter down to you in a subtle form. If you don't receive an answer straight away, then recognise there is a reason for this and allow the Universe to guide you in its own way. This might be by opening yourself up to the energy of syncronicity. I'm sure there will be other people who will also respond to you as well. Love and Light Vine |
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Yes, David Boon is a cricket "legend" in Australia, famous for scoring lots of runs and drinking lots of beer.
He is retired, and now most famous for beer promotions - in particular a talking Boony Doll, which you buy and put on top of your beer can. The Boony Doll says "funny" things although I don't actually have a Boony Doll so I can't tell you how funny. And I'll probably never know now because they have replaced the Boony-Beer-Can-Doll with the (Shane-Warne) Warny-Beer-Can-Doll, which I'm sure is just as funny. (Shane Warne is another famous Australian retired cricketer, famous for eating baked beans and making inappropriate text messages.) You are not make a pudding by having Dreams, as they will mean something. Interpreting them correctly is the trick. If you often have premonitions about the future that come true, then stay upwind of Paris on the 28th. Otherwise, your dream may mean something else. Perhaps the place to start is your interest in conspiracy theories. Your dream lumps seemingly disparate things together - ie. IRA, Nazis and Illuminati. When you have the idea of a far reaching and powerful secret society, it is easy to attribute anything you like to them, because it cannot be proved. But a more interesting question to me is, why would anyone want to do that? And here I'm not talking about the different facts you can pull together to support the argument, I'm talking about the apparent need to believe in a powerful omnipresent interconnected and well ordered entity that is not support by fact. That definition can be used to describe a secret society like Illuminati, or equally, it can be a definition of God. Both of these things provide order, reason and an explanation for everything that happens in life. And neither can be supported by fact. You first have to treat them as if they exist, then go looking for facts to prove it. Which is why I made the "positive" references to David Boon's wonderful cricket scores on the 28th of January. We can find all sorts of things that happen on any particular date, but the ones we choose to highlight depend on what we're trying to "prove". In reality it is not a proof at all, rather it is a method of getting the mind to concentrate on one particular aspect of something. This can be a negative aspect or a postive aspect, depending totally on which one you decide to choose. regards, Mr B. Wizard |
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the illuminati don't exist and are a belief system?
not supported by fact? ? i agree the IRA don't seem to fit in, exept a lot of them, including the ring-leaders were MI5 controlled, and have done this kind of thing before. i was looking for relevant or suspicious events on the same date, like a police investigator would, that's all. outbreak of asian flu, and the chinese circus is in town. but then so is the dentist conference... and there's a sale on at woolworths... i was going to delete the thread or the post now, to avoid any easy digs after the (hopefully uneventful) 28th, but since vine has posted, i'd better leave it. |
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Hello Lazyhorse & Bugalug,
I have been reading your topic with interest and I think you are both right (so Lazyhorse don't delete the entry). I think sometimes what can happen with forums is that it fails to take into account the way it is being written and can be misinterpreted, or it doesn't allow the contributor to identify what emotions are being conveyed to the end user. The same happens when you send an email or text message. If it's any consolation I think you are both saying the same thing, but not really getting the tongue-in-cheek connection you both seem to have. I try to use emoticons when I place a message to avoid this happening. I will tune in with inerest to read more of your topics. Soiree |
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thanks vine.
if only we were reading from the same page on dreams. my understanding is that dreams are real shared environments, and not personal or symbolic. i don't see dream experiences as being any more symbolic than waking experiences. if i frequent a betting shop when awake, i could ask myself exactly the same questions about what that means symbolically about me, as if i dreamt the same reccuring scenario. dream futures to me ARE the future, possible or likely futures that we are brushing with at least. sometimes they are so close to our timeline, that events in them are accurate, and those can be seen as premonitions. people i dream about ARE those people. the subconscious is collective. ask spirit about the psychic war, raging back and forth across time and similar or parralel worlds (or inter-dimensional, a term i don't like to use), and drawing in more and more people as willing or unwilling conscripts, since the advent of sophisticated mind control technology, like star-gates. i used to look things up in a dreamers' dictionary, but it doesn't cut the mustard for me any more, because i'm trying to decode the mechanics of the big picture more than looking within myself these days. i know you do great work with people, so whatever works for you is good. i don't mean to be negative. in other areas, i can be more receptive to your skilled and expereienced advices. it's just that with dreams and the so called "inter-dimensional" stuff, i have had to develop my own school of thinking, as conventional wisdom has not satisfactorily explained, or provided practical strategies for, the metaphysical world i experience. |
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so true.
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Hi Lazyhorse,
I totally agree, with you, we are sort of looking at the dream category differently. I just created a light workers section on the forum and if I am correct with your understanding that dreams are a real and shared environment and you are experiencing inter-dimensional or entering the astral planes in a sleep state - then I think that would be better covered in the light workers section. I am hoping that like-minded people who have a great deal of spiritual experience can provide comments and offer a supportive environment to those who are dealing with living in our world and experiencing other dimensional world activity. I do know how that can feel and the level of responsibility you carry in knowing this information, failing to have an avenue to gain further insight, or to find open-minded people who you can openly share these experiences with. This is why I was spiritually guided to create this forum and to give these topics an airing. A lot of people are just having your standard subconscious dreams, which is allowing them to gain a greater understanding of their everyday issues. If you were to discuss this topic with them they would not be able to grasp where you are coming from and might respond to your posts with the knowledge they only carry. Of course, there are people who tap into consciousness and draw memory pulses towards them from the past and future; these are also considered prophetic dreams. I think there are a lot of people who will read your thread and know exactly where you are coming from. Love and Light Vine |
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hi vine,
i knew you'd understand. that's great. i'll get on the light work board. my friend al said he thought people dream in different ways. he also said he thought i was a "rat person", and that our circle of friends were mostly rat people (coming together intuitively?). from your photo, i see you as a "star girl", and specifically what i call "andromeda", although that's my own personal word label, and not "official" terminology. those star people have been around a very long time, are very good and sensible, and have been through everything the human race is experiencing looooong ago. i'm getting better at recognising the animal spirit in people, but that's another thread... till next time, laz. |
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